This saddle is handmade by Mike Heisler. It is a 15 inch slick seat, Wade Tree, 6.25 Gullet, drop place rigging. It has been used for roping only a few times, and the rest of the time used for trail riding. You won't find a more quality saddle for the price. It would cost at least 2500.00 to have one made like it now, if not more. Serious inquiry only!!